Echo JS 0.11.0

pablojim 1969 days ago.
I love Echo JS. But it is disappointing there aren't more active discussions on topics here.

This is a a bit of a catch-22 problem. No discussions - so nothing to reply to.

I'm going to make an effort to comment on stories from now on but we need more people to do the same! Vote this up and start commenting and maybe we can get the ball rolling...

rsnickell 1968 days ago. link 6 points
For me, I didn't even realize there was a discussion component until looking closely as the small typography near the articles.  Maybe the design could be modified, but I don't know if discussion is the main focus of this site.

For a while I thought that the up/down voting was the focus aside from getting JS news that I really enjoy.
pianoroy 1968 days ago. link 3 points
I use EchoJS primarily as an RSS feed for awareness of the JS community. The design of the page could be improved to make it more attractive as a browser bookmark instead of just an RSS feed.
adamb 1968 days ago. link 2 points
I agree with the 2nd comment - I think the fundamental question is: Does the creator of EchoJS want it to be a platform for discussion?

As it stands, the current design marginalizes discussion by having the link to comments sitting all the way at the end of the second row dedicated to supplementary information.
fcambus 1968 days ago. link 3 points
Discussions are of course welcomed and encouraged!

Just like on Hacker News, the news title is on the first line and the other informations are displayed on the second line. 

The difference here, though, is that we sometimes have days without discussions so in this case all news will display "discuss" instead of "3 comments" for example, which may not make it obvious at first sight. The workaround would be having more discussion, obviously :)
olalonde 1968 days ago. link 2 points
Agreed. Maybe there's just not much to say about Javascript libraries? Just a thought, I could be wrong.
cee 1968 days ago. link 1 point
Head over to HackerNews, there's also JS and people are talking a lot about it.
pablojim 1968 days ago. link 3 points
I look at Hacker News too. But many articles here never get exposure on HN.
bevacqua 1968 days ago. link 2 points
discussions here would definitely help improve engagement with the site, and like others have mentioned, JS links don't generally pop to the top in HN.
olalonde 1968 days ago. link 1 point
That's a good point. I'm actually pretty active on HN and it's true that most JS submissions get a lot of comments.
chadams 1968 days ago. link 1 point
Discussions? it's not entirely clear to me how to utilize discussions. 

I would discuss more if it was easy to get back to articles i'm interested in. A lot of the time they fall off the bottom and I never see them again.

I think being able to "star" articles, and also, seeing a list of all my stared articles would allow me to go back and look over the discussion later. I may not have something to say now, but after looking over a new article, I may want to join in a discussion later.

Developers are busy people and we need to discuss at our own convenience. 

P.S> I would probably would even visit more often having a list of all my stared articles here for later reference, just say'in
fcambus 1968 days ago. link 3 points
There is such a functionality built-in actually : when you upvote a story, it gets saved into a (private) list you can access. Check the "saved news" link in your user profile.

So upvoting stories serve two purposes : you help the community by making interesting and quality posts reach the front page, and as a side effect, you keep a track of them :)
fcambus 1968 days ago. link 3 points
Also, the "replies" link in the menu lists all the comments you posted, along with replies if it received any. In the former case, a little bubble is displayed with the number of unread replies.
rsnickell 1968 days ago. link 2 points
Dual purposing UI actions leads to confusion in my experience. Even though well intentioned, the idea that voting also saves to a list is an unexpected result.  Even for our savvy group, I would recommend using common user interface hints, like a star or a save for later element.
chadams 1968 days ago. link 1 point
This replay was helpful, In fact I didn't know about this functionality. I also didn't realize the red arrows were to up/down vote. (this isn't very clear)

Perhaps make a "how to" page or something. 

Also, I didn't notice "saved news", or how to use it with out your reply, perhaps move that to Top menu next to "replies" link or something.

I also agree with rsnickell about the saved list, favorites should be separated. It would be nice to star an article to read later, then if it's not very relevant anymore, remove the star to reduce clutter.

Echo JS is a great resource, I just think it has some easily fixable UX issues.
sbruchmann 1968 days ago. link 1 point
I like the way, how EchoJS is saving up voted news for reading them later and I also agree, that the UI/UX of voting/saving has to be improved.

Instead of voting news, let users “star” respectively “unstar” them (like repositories on GitHub) and list starred news on the users profile.

What do you think?