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tracker1 2355 days ago. link 1 point
Absolutely... I'm actually surprised more service/database open-source software doesn't start off as AGPL for those reasons (re: MongoDB and Redis changes).  In the end there are pluses and minuses around it all.

Libraries, and especially connecting client libraries for say databases, I feel very differently about and favor MIT or ISC (I like WTFPL, but lawyers don't like the implied lack of warranty and prefer explicit declaration.)
tracker1 2356 days ago. link 1 point
It isn't necessarily a negative, just pointing it out.  A lot of devs work for companies that don't allow (A)GPL, or at least severely limit AGPL specifically depending on the environment.  Was just pointing it out. :-)
tracker1 2357 days ago. link 1 point
With Redux (flux pattern), it's often in the context of a 1-way UI rendering/updating process, which simplifies larger applications a lot.

Also, what is described by handlers isn't so different in practice than more complex action creators that dispatch a new object that should replace the old in the state tree.  And while not expressly immutable, shallow clones are often the preference.

The pattern described in the article in practice takes a *LOT* of coordination for anything beyond trivial.  Also, at scale encapsulation (OO) patterns, especially with inheritance act a lot slower.  You're actually better off having an action library that acts on objects over objects that act on themselves as a result (such as a game, for example).

It's worth looking at video game development, even if you aren't writing games for some examples here.  Of course as with anything else, you will find more and less elegant designs in practice.
tracker1 2357 days ago. link 1 point
Worth noting that portions of this application are GPL/AGPL meaning you can not create internalized versions that have extensions that are closed source or internalized to your business.

You could create separate (closed services) that are separate and then keep the modifications on the open parts of the UI open in support.
tracker1 2357 days ago. link 1 point
Yeah, the directives (DSL == domain/document specific language).

I generally use connected router (recent upgrade in a project was fun) which abstracts a lot of it with Redux.  Redux does add a bit of complexity, but that complexity scales incredibly well.  Meaning once you understand the patterns, they're easy to repeat and grow features without more increases in relative complexity.

As to Vue, my issues are almost the opposite, I feel it would be very hard to scale to a larger app without relatively higher rates of additional complexity by comparison.  Even the more modest apps I've worked on with Vue got to be murky in practice.

CSS in JS for Vue is kind of interesting, but similar issues in general surrounding theming.
tracker1 2358 days ago. link 3 points
Interesting... in the tech section, Linux beat out Windows and Docker is at 31% on its' own.  Also, I'm surprised that 1:8 have used Firebase this past year.

Most wanted languages: Python, JavaScript, Go --- Rust took the top spot on most loved followed by Python and TypeScript

React is (of course) the most loved and wanted web framework, edging out Vue in both... 

.Net Core tops most loved and Node most wanted under the "other..." category.

Redis and PostgreSQL top most loved DB

Linux, Docker, K8s top most loved platforms... Docker in most wanted spot.

VS Code top dev env

Most used OS, I'm surprised Linux is almost as high as mac for primary OS, windows is under 50% now.

38% using containers (Docker) at least for development.

Functional languages (Clojure and F#) top the salary chart, followed by Go...

The correlated technology map is super cool
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tracker1 2358 days ago. link 1 point
Doesn't seem to be setup for modern front ends (spa), uses gulp instead of direct npm scripts.  babel-env doesn't specify a minimum browser version (likely to load a lot of extra overhead).

The fact that this has a bower config pretty much lost me on "modern" anything.
tracker1 2358 days ago. link 2 points
React uses JS functions and things like map, which JS devs should already know.  Vue uses a DSL, which you have to learn, and frankly looks a bit alien.
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